Comments on: ⇥ IE9 will have rounded corners (and a bunch of other stuff) http://blog.tabini.ca/2009/11/ie9-will-have-rounded-corners-and-a-bunch-of-other-stuff/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ie9-will-have-rounded-corners-and-a-bunch-of-other-stuff Stumbling on since 1997 Fri, 07 Oct 2011 08:06:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Aubrey http://blog.tabini.ca/2009/11/ie9-will-have-rounded-corners-and-a-bunch-of-other-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-666 Aubrey Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:29:03 +0000 http://blog.tabini.ca/?p=277#comment-666 IE9 will be W3C compliant? Where have we hears something like this before??? Oh Yes! IE7 IE8 I'll believe it when I see it, not one second before. IE9 will be W3C compliant?
Where have we hears something like this before???
Oh Yes!
IE7
IE8
I’ll believe it when I see it, not one second before.

]]> By: Marco Tabini http://blog.tabini.ca/2009/11/ie9-will-have-rounded-corners-and-a-bunch-of-other-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-597 Marco Tabini Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:15:49 +0000 http://blog.tabini.ca/?p=277#comment-597 @anthony: I think we are looking at the problem from two different perspectives. Obviously, designers have to make things work on as many browsers as reasonable—in some cases, including ancient versions of IE6 because of external constraints (such as the adoption cycle in a particular environment). However, “work” is not the same as “look good.” The design of the CSS system makes graceful degradation possible—which means that designers have a path of least resistance towards providing the best UX with the tools that make doing so simplest. We are now at a point where Webkit-based browsers can provide a powerful UX with nothing more than a few line of (nearly-standard) CSS, so graceful degradation into IE becomes a powerful proposition for any developer—which means that interfaces will look less and less interesting in it unless the development team steps up and fixes things. @anthony: I think we are looking at the problem from two different perspectives. Obviously, designers have to make things work on as many browsers as reasonable—in some cases, including ancient versions of IE6 because of external constraints (such as the adoption cycle in a particular environment). However, “work” is not the same as “look good.”

The design of the CSS system makes graceful degradation possible—which means that designers have a path of least resistance towards providing the best UX with the tools that make doing so simplest. We are now at a point where Webkit-based browsers can provide a powerful UX with nothing more than a few line of (nearly-standard) CSS, so graceful degradation into IE becomes a powerful proposition for any developer—which means that interfaces will look less and less interesting in it unless the development team steps up and fixes things.

]]> By: anthonydpaul http://blog.tabini.ca/2009/11/ie9-will-have-rounded-corners-and-a-bunch-of-other-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-596 anthonydpaul Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:20:40 +0000 http://blog.tabini.ca/?p=277#comment-596 "enough to push many developers to simply ignore older versions of IE" Wishful thinking. Unfortunately, most designers/developers don't actually decide to or to not support a browser. The populace does. We have to support whatever is being used, just to be in best practice...and to satisfy clients. IE6 hasn't even dropped below 10% usage yet, with two existing versions above and more than eight years' abuse (eternity, considering most of the sites we use daily didn't exist then). This is not to say the advent of IE9 having better CSS support is not exciting. It certainly is. It is only to say we shouldn't have held our breath for all the promises of IE8 or IE7, though we did...and sadly it wasn't as much of an improvement as we'd hoped, despite being in beta for a full year (about 4x what FF typically is) and being between versions for three years. By the time IE9 is in RC, even if it ushers in everything we hope for now, it will still be behind on whatever the current standards are. “enough to push many developers to simply ignore older versions of IE” Wishful thinking. Unfortunately, most designers/developers don’t actually decide to or to not support a browser. The populace does. We have to support whatever is being used, just to be in best practice…and to satisfy clients. IE6 hasn’t even dropped below 10% usage yet, with two existing versions above and more than eight years’ abuse (eternity, considering most of the sites we use daily didn’t exist then).

This is not to say the advent of IE9 having better CSS support is not exciting. It certainly is. It is only to say we shouldn’t have held our breath for all the promises of IE8 or IE7, though we did…and sadly it wasn’t as much of an improvement as we’d hoped, despite being in beta for a full year (about 4x what FF typically is) and being between versions for three years. By the time IE9 is in RC, even if it ushers in everything we hope for now, it will still be behind on whatever the current standards are.

]]> By: Herman Radtke http://blog.tabini.ca/2009/11/ie9-will-have-rounded-corners-and-a-bunch-of-other-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-590 Herman Radtke Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:00:22 +0000 http://blog.tabini.ca/?p=277#comment-590 I will be very happy if they score 100/100 on Acid 3. A score of 32/100 is bad, but I think it is really too early to tell. I think we will get a better idea of how much emphasis they are putting on Acid 3 once it goes beta. Implementing standards like Acid 3 will buy them much more developer support than "Excel Web App". I will be very happy if they score 100/100 on Acid 3. A score of 32/100 is bad, but I think it is really too early to tell. I think we will get a better idea of how much emphasis they are putting on Acid 3 once it goes beta. Implementing standards like Acid 3 will buy them much more developer support than “Excel Web App”.

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